? steven morris and gillian tett, u.s. managing editor of "the financial times." great to see you both. steven moore, it may be hard to take it from someone who is french, but, you know, she points out, we have a little bit more room, and when you look at that crucial ratio, maybe she's right. >> well, oui, oui, it is hard to take. she is saying she wants the united states to be more like france. we're at 70% of our debt to gdp, they're at 90%. she wants more spending more stimulus. there are a couple problems with that, one, it didn't work in the united states when we tried it a kippel he years ago. also, why would we want to move in the direction that france and italy and spain and greece have done. we should move away from that model. it's almost like the charlotte bobcats coach explaining to lebron james how to win a championship. >> gillian, i guess you're here to represent the socialist views of the continent. >> i certainly wouldn't defend what people at the french government have been doing the last year or two, but at the same time, what she was saying is, watch out, america.